add a preset for entrance=*

[aceman]

Please add a preset for entrance=* , offer the common values and an optional "access" key. ​http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:entrance

Then, make it clear in the labels what is the difference from the existing <key key="barrier" value="entrance" />

The icons for entrance=* should already be in place according to other reports.

[Don-vip]

In 6176/josm:

fix #9000 - add entrance to presets + deprecate building=entrance in favor of it. Icons and map style already ok.

[Don-vip]

In 6177/josm:

see #9000 - wrong copy/paste

[skyper]

Thanks, Don-vip. Was already thinking about it, too.

I do not like the words in backets, though. We still have barrier=entrance for those gaps in a barrier. Have a look at the ​discussion on tagging@osm.

[Don-vip]

I was not sure about what to do. Leaving just "entrance" may be confusing, do you have another idea ?

[skyper]

Replying to Don-vip:

I was not sure about what to do. Leaving just "entrance" may be confusing, do you have another idea ?

What about entrance (building/amenity) or similar. For sure it is an opening but I did not find many entrances without barrier so far (usually a door or gate).

[aceman]

The patch looks good, thanks. Yes, "entrance (building/amenity)" would be good for disambiguation. Somehow the barrier key does not have any value for a door into a building. It has only values for outdoor barriers/gates.

skyper, what combinations have you seen? barrier=gate+entrance=yes ?

[Don-vip]

I'm not sure this wording is so good for disambiguation. Building entrances should be tagged with entrance key, I find it more confusing.

Maybe switch back to "Entrance" for both and add a validator test to restrict barrier=entrance on nodes on barrier ways ?

Or is there a talk about deprecating barrier=entrance ? I can't see why it couldn't be replaced by entrance=yes, like building=entrance

[skyper]

Replying to aceman:

skyper, what combinations have you seen? barrier=gate+entrance=yes ?

• barrier=gate
• lift_gate
• barrier=door
• barrier=turnstile

Replying to Don-vip:

I'm not sure this wording is so good for disambiguation. Building entrances should be tagged with entrance key, I find it more confusing.

Ok, I get it and changed my mind. Your wording should be fine.

Maybe switch back to "Entrance" for both and add a validator test to restrict barrier=entrance on nodes on barrier ways ?

+1, for the test

Or is there a talk about deprecating barrier=entrance ? I can't see why it couldn't be replaced by entrance=yes, like building=entrance

Not so far and there are small but important differences !

1. I do not expect a barrier at barrier=entrance
2. I do not expect a limited height at barrier=entrance

[aceman]

From the image on the wiki, a barrier=entrance is a hole in a barrier (wall/fence). entrance=* on a building actually may have a barrier (e.g. a door) that is not passable when mounted on a bike.

[Don-vip]

In 6192/josm:

fix #9000 - add a new validator test on barrier=entrance not set on a barrier