External presets / rules / styles: Update does not work

[skyper]

I did update wiki:Presets/LaneAttributes yesterday and today I did not get the updated version.

• I did manually update the list under preferences
• I did remove the old version, restart, add the new version and restart

Both did not work.

Only after manually deleting the cache file, I was able to get the new version.

Please, make it possible to update the presets within the preferences.

Thanks

Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn
Build-Date: 2013-08-04 01:35:11
Last Changed Author: Don-vip
Revision: 6111
Repository UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b
URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
Last Changed Date: 2013-08-04 02:49:28 +0200 (Sun, 04 Aug 2013)
Last Changed Rev: 6111

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (6111 en) Linux Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy)
Memory Usage: 124 MB / 592 MB (86 MB allocated, but free)
Java version: 1.7.0_25, Oracle Corporation, OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM
Java package: openjdk-7-jre:amd64-7u25-2.3.10-1~deb7u1

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[Don-vip]

Ticket #9615 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[francois.lacombe]

+1 for fixing this problem.
I've encountered the problem last night with styles and presets rules.

An idea would be to let users set their own caching lifetime in advanced parameters or even to follow cache lifetime of the http request for loading external presets or styles.
Currently, no way to load updated presets and styles without deleting the cache record in AppData directory.

[Don-vip]

This defect is here for ages it can wait next release to minimize the risk of regression in our last Java 6 version.

[Don-vip]

Move all tickets for which no work has been done yet to next milestone

[Don-vip]

Move some tickets to next milestone

[francois.lacombe]

Hi Don-vip, why did you delete this ticket from 14.08 milestone ?

I would love looking for a solution for this real problem.
I don't even know where to start.

[Don-vip]

I know this problem is real, unless I would have closed the ticket.
Problem is: it's not that simple, I'd like to rework the entire update feature to have something coherent between all extensions (plugins, styles, imagery sources, presets, validator rules).
This is no easy task and it will take some time I currently don't have, so instead of reporting this ticket from milestone to milestone I prefer to remove it to have cleaner milestones.
I'll add it to another milestone when I will have a better idea of how we can fix this.

[Klumbumbus]

from the duplicate ticket #9615:
watch-modified: true; is used in a lot styles. Has this any purpose? Or did just everyone copy from each other? :)
I can't find any documentation about this.

[Klumbumbus]

Ticket #11876 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[Klumbumbus]

Ticket #11868 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[Klumbumbus]

Ticket #11961 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[Polarbear-j]

Didn't spot the cache files when looking first, since they clutter themselves with very long filenames.

Preset cache files should have their own folder in the cache directory.

[taylor.smock]

Refactor the preferences pane to have a generic update panel (plugin updates still work, now there are options for (unimplemented) updates for validators, should be easy to copy over to the mappaint styles).

[taylor.smock]

I'll continue working on this patch, but I figured that it would be worthwhile to get some feedback before I spend time implementing some form of update functionality for mappaint/validator.

[nathhad]

Is any current consideration still being given to this issue?

I'm working on a preset that's hosted on an independent server, and this issue makes it a lot more cumbersome for my beta testers to update when I've made a fix. I've spent more time explaining how to delete the cache file and update the preset in JOSM than I've needed to spend actually explaining the preset (which I suppose is a good thing for my preset, but nonetheless).

I know it would be lovely to have a nice, global solution for this ... but it would be a whole lot more expedient to add one button to the right of the installed preset list that forces a delete and reload of the selected preset. It might be simpler to implement, and might get this issue resolved more quickly than anything else ...

Thanks!

[taylor.smock]

I am, unfortunately, working on other things.

There is a workaround, which is why I haven't been focused on this particular bug/feature request.

I'll look into rebasing the patch I have. But I'll probably have to significantly rework it. I never got around to hooking up actual (manual) update functionality for mapcss validators.

[nathhad]

Thanks!

I wish I had time to learn enough Java to help solve it myself (not my language and I'm rusty on the things that are), but I've already taken on too many projects, too. The constant trouble with volunteer projects, only so many of us to volunteer!

[skyper]

Ticket #20093 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[Klumbumbus]

How to update a cached presets/rules/styles in JOSM see e.g. wiki:/Styles#UpdatingstylesinJOSM

[Don-vip]

Ticket #20144 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[skyper]

Ticket #22465 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.

[skyper]

Ticket #22866 has been marked as a duplicate of this ticket.