on Windows (XP, 7) the JOSM window is alway on top

[MichaelK_OSM@…]

Hello,

as discussed in the German Talk ML, it is with 1788 e.g. not possible to bring another window (e.g. Firefox) than JOSM to top using <ALT> <TAB>.
See:
​http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052503.html
​http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052517.html
​http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052524.html
​http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052528.html

Best regards,
Michael.

[dieterdreist]

see also this bug:
​http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3099

[MichaelK_OSM@…]

maybe linked to ​http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3099
according to a hint from ​http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-August/052534.html

Best regards,
Michael.

[plaicy]

see also this bug #3181

[vsandre]

In my experience with JOSM the problem does no exist right from the start. The problem starts when you want to change the window while JOSM blocks working because of downloading new date for instance. It is reproducible.

Better solution is not to block all inputs - referring to MS Windows - and only blocks JOSM or its windows.

[Gubaer]

I've experiemented with a small demo app, see JosmWinMgtDemoApplication. setAlwaysOnTop() doesn't seem to be necessary. It probably does more harm than good.

Please download the small programm from JosmWinMgtDemoApplication, run it in your preferred environment and report back whether this is what you expect to see in your OS/JVM/WM-combination.

[vsandre]

Replying to Gubaer:

Please download the small programm from JosmWinMgtDemoApplication, run it in your preferred environment and report back whether this is what you expect to see in your OS/JVM/WM-combination.

Works great! Could you please test the feature "allways on top" mentioned in #3181 comment 10.

[Gubaer]

Could you please test the feature "allways on top" mentioned in #3181 comment 10.

What do you mean with "testing the feature"? setAlwaysOnTop() is currently used in JOSM, JOSMs behavior with setAlwaysOnTop() led to this and other tickets. What would you like to have tested in addition?

[vsandre]

Replying to Gubaer:

What do you mean with "testing the feature"? setAlwaysOnTop() is currently used in JOSM, JOSMs behavior with setAlwaysOnTop() led to this and other tickets. What would you like to have tested in addition?

mentioned in #3181 comment 10:

I think the always on top of a all system windows should be a feature and not the default. On machines with a small display I use this to input new unknown OSM-Tags while watching them in the browser. It is very comfortable and I do not want to miss that.

In other words it would be nice to have pin or checkbox to set the window in front of all. But there should be the possibility to change the active program. See the attached image as an example. This should only be a feature, so feel free to drop it but it would be a nice tool for a netbook display.

[vsandre]

usecase for a good "always on top"

[Gubaer]

Removed all occurences of setAlwaysOnTop() in [1987].

Please test in your environments.

[Gubaer]

No further comments after the fix in r1987. Seems to be OK. Closing.