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#20872 new enhancement

Compare coordinates with Wikidata

Reported by: simon04 Owned by: floscher
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Plugin wikipedia Version:
Keywords: validator Cc: pigsonthewing, 1ec5

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Suggested by pigsonthewing in #11541

If the coordinates in Wikidata vary wildly from those in OSM, issue a warning.

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comment:1 by 1ec5, 4 years ago

Cc: 1ec5 added

comment:2 by gaben, 4 years ago

Hmm and what if its position is known for sure, but Wikidata has the wrong coordinates? I ran into this multiple times.

comment:3 by pigsonthewing, 3 years ago

"what if its position is known for sure, but Wikidata has the wrong coordinates?"

A warning should sill be issued. We can never know, programmatically which are correct, and should the error be in Wikidata, it still requires fixing.

Last edited 3 years ago by pigsonthewing (previous) (diff)

comment:4 by gaben, 3 years ago

I was thinking that the plugin could update the Wikidata location from OSM. Of course, it would require Wiki registration.

Just an idea, what do you think?

in reply to:  4 comment:5 by skyper, 3 years ago

Replying to gaben:

I was thinking that the plugin could update the Wikidata location from OSM.

Is this possible with ODbL?

comment:6 by gaben, 3 years ago

I think yes. OSM is ODbL, while Wikidata is CC0. See here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility

in reply to:  6 ; comment:7 by skyper, 3 years ago

Replying to gaben:

I think yes. OSM is ODbL, while Wikidata is CC0. See here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility

Sorry, that is the opposite way (CC0 -> ODbL) but I asked about OSM to Wikidata (ODbL -> CC0) which is likely to fail as OSM has to be mentioned as source.

in reply to:  7 ; comment:8 by gaben, 3 years ago

Replying to skyper:

I asked about OSM to Wikidata (ODbL -> CC0) which is likely to fail as OSM has to be mentioned as source.

You can mention OSM in the location/position item as the source. Isn't it enough?

in reply to:  8 comment:9 by skyper, 3 years ago

Replying to gaben:

Replying to skyper:

Replying to gaben:

I think yes. OSM is ODbL, while Wikidata is CC0. See here https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility

Sorry, that is the opposite way (CC0 -> ODbL) but I asked about OSM to Wikidata (ODbL -> CC0) which is likely to fail as OSM has to be mentioned as source.

You can mention OSM in the location/position item as the source. Isn't it enough?

This might work for the website but I doubt this will work for the api.

Reading the mention wiki page, I stumbled over following in the first paragraph:

Note that while declared license of dataset may be compatible there may be still problems due to different jurisdiction and/or ignoring copyright issues. For example, Wikidata declares itself to be CC0 but includes location data copied from Google Maps, OpenStreetMap and other copyrighted sources.

and this wiki section. Seems there are even problems with the source and correct license of the location on wikidata, atm.

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