Junglebus validation rules and public_transport=stop_position presets

[deuzeffe]

Hello,

I'm a little bit confused:

• on the one hand, Junglebus validation rules say "The operator/network should be on the transport lines and not on the stops"
• on the other hand, public_transport=stop_position presets suggest operator and network attributes to be filled *even if they're optional* (and osmose blames me, but it's another thing )

I don't know where presets come from (JOSM or plugin such as pt_assistant or other). But I know they can lead to mistagging public transport networks.

Maybe, there is no suitable solution...

Thx for your answer, whatever it is.

Please provide any additional information below. Attach a screenshot if possible.

URL:https://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
Repository:UUID: 0c6e7542-c601-0410-84e7-c038aed88b3b
Last:Changed Date: 2019-12-01 23:10:15 +0100 (Sun, 01 Dec 2019)
Build-Date:2019-12-02 02:30:57
Revision:15553
Relative:URL: ^/trunk

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Java package: openjdk-8-jre:amd64-8u232-b09-1~deb9u1
WebStart package: icedtea-netx:amd64-1.6.2-3.1+deb9u1
Java ATK Wrapper package: libatk-wrapper-java:all-0.33.3-13+deb9u1
libcommons-logging-java: libcommons-logging-java:all-1.2-1
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Dataset consistency test: No problems found

Plugins:
+ FixAddresses (35248)
+ apache-commons (35092)
+ cadastre-fr (35248)
+ conflation (0.6.4)
+ ejml (35122)
+ epci-fr (35092)
+ geotools (35169)
+ gson (35158)
+ jaxb (35092)
+ jts (35122)
+ opendata (35248)
+ osm-obj-info (56)
+ pt_assistant (34678)
+ reverter (35248)
+ scripting (30796)
+ todo (30306)
+ undelete (35248)
+ utilsplugin2 (35248)

Tagging presets:
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Community_Centre&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/NewTags&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/Historical_Objects&zip=1
+ https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Presets/PublicTransportOneClick&zip=1
+ https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yopaseopor/traffic_signs_preset_JOSM/master/FR.zip

Map paint styles:
- https://github.com/bastik/mapcss-tools/raw/osm/mapnik2mapcss/osm-results/mapnik.zip
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/FrenchEPCI&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/PublicTransportV2&zip=1
- https://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/PublicTransport&zip=1

Validator rules:
+ https://github.com/Jungle-Bus/transport_mapcss/raw/gh-pages/transport.validator.zip

Last errors/warnings:
- W: No configuration settings found.  Using hardcoded default values for all pools.
- E: <josm.userdata>/plugins/opendata/resources/org/openstreetmap/josm/plugins/opendata/modules/fr/datagouvfr/datasets/agriculture/RegistreParcellaire.mapcss (Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type)

[Klumbumbus]

In general ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position says network/operator can be used on stop_position. The validator rule of jungle bus is limited to France ​https://github.com/Jungle-Bus/transport_mapcss/blob/master/transport.validator.mapcss#L256 so it seems in France there is a special agreement among mappers. So I think norhing can be done here.