deprecate service=irrigation/transportation/water_power?

[Don-vip]

​osmwiki:Tag:service=irrigation is used more than 10.000 times.

But we define in presets ​osmwiki:Tag:usage=irrigation, used 6.000 times.

I guess we should deprecate service for waterways and promote usage instead?

[Klumbumbus]

I usually avoid marking tags as deprecated in JOSM when they are not marked as deprecated in the wiki.

Pretty much ignoring the wiki at its presets and validation rules is one of the biggest points of critisism of the iD editor lately among the german osm community. (​https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=65004 ​https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66308)

[Don-vip]

I know, that's why I asked the question :) Time to start a discussion on @tagging then?

[Don-vip]

(the French community is also upset about iD governance by the way)

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to Don-vip:

Time to start a discussion on @tagging then?

Yes would make sense, however I have no urge for that :)
Meanwhile we could add the 3 service tags to the ignore list to silence jenkins.

[Don-vip]

Fine for me. I can ask François to start the discussion, I feel he's a bit responsible for the appearance of usage in 2018.

[francois.lacombe]

Let's go on @Tagging for a simple question
​https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-June/045904.html

[Klumbumbus]

In 15159/josm:

• see #17770 - ignore service=irrigation for now
• fix #17787 - make siren:purpose a multiselect and searchable

[anonymous]

According to @tagging, service=* is a poor choice to deal with waterway purpose.
Discussion will go on particular point about waterway=pressurised, but reviewed and documented tagging ig done with usage=*

[Don-vip]

Milestone renamed

[Klumbumbus]

So was there any result of the tagging ML discussion?

[francois.lacombe]

Not a frankly consensus

According to wiki, I'll go for usage and drop service for waterways