New preset icons in svg - railway and ways - and a new tag railway=traverser

[zermes]

A few more to add. One of them doesn't exist in JOSM presets. It's the railway=traverser ​taginfo or transfer_table ​taginfo. ​wikipedia Can we add it to JOSM? Since JOSM have turntable I think it should have this one too. It is more used today than the roundtable that was used more in the steam locomotive era, I think.

I took off the line in the middle of "Combined Foot and Cycleway" sign because that line doesn't make sense, at the same time, keeps the sign recognizable and is more easy to distinguish it from the segregated sign in the tool bar menu without the text.

In the steps icon I've made another approach, removed the blue background from the official sign since it can be used in all steps, most of them don't have that sign. The other blue signs, most of the time, must have those signs in the field if we want to tag something with those tags (although unfortunately they are not blue in every country).

All released in CC0 and/or public domain. Some of them were based in openclipart.org and wikimedia.org signs (I was careful, took only the ones in public domain, some signs in wikimedia are not in public domain like CC-BY-SA and others).

[zermes]

Here is a preview:

[zermes]

SVG files with viewBox values fixed.

[zermes]

If the missing tag railway=traverser is added to JOSM use the help page created a few moments ago ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dtraverser

[Don-vip]

Replying to zermes:

If the missing tag railway=traverser is added to JOSM use the help page created a few moments ago ​https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dtraverser

I see a very low usage of this tag yet (115 is generally not enough to be included in JOSM default presets). Does it mean that most of traversers are currently tagged as turntables?

[zermes]

Probably no one use the tag roundtable in a transverser since they have very different layouts (circle vs rectangle). The first time I saw one I used the tag "name=Transfer table" (of course is not the correct tag, It was a long time ago, I was learning) and "wikipedia=en:Transfer table".

I just thought if JOSM has roundtable it should have traverser, because they are a little similar. But I understand if we add a lot of tags to JOSM (railway has a lot not documented), it becomes a mess. Anyway we can add it latter if is used more. A least now it has the wiki page to help people find the correct tag.

Now the other icons are good in JOSM :-) Thanks.

[zermes]

Please don't put these icons in JOSM now. I will make some changes to them. They must work in dark or grey themes as we can see in https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/12259#comment:6

[zermes]

Here they are. Released under CC0/Public Domain.

[Klumbumbus]

I would add the new icons now, but keep the old ones for now, to not break external presets. In next milestone we can remove the old icons and adjust external presets. Any concerns?

[Don-vip]

OK to add new icons now, sounds good. Have you checked the presets for the pharmacy icons ? There was failures yesterday.

[Klumbumbus]

Yes I fixed them. However there is still one error, but I don't know where it comes from. There is no preset with "KO" in the list. All have "OK". https://josm.openstreetmap.de/jenkins/job/JOSM/585/jdk=JDK8/testReport/junit/org.openstreetmap.josm.gui.preferences.map/TaggingPresetPreferenceTest/testValidityOfAvailablePresets/

[Klumbumbus]

In 9306/josm:

fix #12232 - Add new railway and way icons, by zermes (CC0/PD), icons see [o31936]; drop steps mappaint icon

[simon04]

In 9307/josm:

see #12232 - Fix XML (duplicate attribute)

[Don-vip]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

Yes I fixed them. However there is still one error, but I don't know where it comes from. There is no preset with "KO" in the list. All have "OK".

That's very strange. When I run the test on my machine I got the erroneous test:

http://michreichert.de/osm/wochenaufgabe/wa0607-apotheken/apotheken.xml
INFO: GET http://michreichert.de/osm/wochenaufgabe/wa0607-apotheken/apotheken.xml -> 200 (3.38 kB)
ERROR: Failed to locate image 'styles/standard/health/pharmacy.png'
WARNING: [NODE, CLOSEDWAY] Pharmacy: Could not get presets icon styles/standard/health/pharmacy.png
 => KO

Does anyone know Michael Reichert to let him know he must update the icon?

[Klumbumbus]

Michael,can you please update your preset. Or can we delete it, since the internal pharmacy preset was enhanced meanwhile?

[Nakaner]

@Klumbumbus You can delete the preset. It was just used during a Wochenaufgabe in 2015.

[Don-vip]

Replying to Nakaner:

You can delete the preset. It was just used during a Wochenaufgabe in 2015.

Done. Thank you! :)

[Klumbumbus]

The new railway crossing icons are a bit obtrusive. This was better before. (However I'm not sure, if the usage on tram crossings is correct.)

Location: ​https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.83503/12.92419

[Nakaner]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

The new railway crossing icons are a bit obtrusive. This was better before. (However I'm not sure, if the usage on tram crossings is correct.)

Semi-OT: If a footway crosses a tram track, railway=* is right and highway=* is wrong. People argue if railway=crossing or railway=level_crossing is better.

[Nakaner]

I prefer the old icons over the new ones. If want to get away from the German saltire, you might have a look at the crossing icons of OpenRailwayMap. ​https://github.com/rurseekatze/OpenRailwayMap/blob/master/styles/icons/crossing.svg ​https://github.com/rurseekatze/OpenRailwayMap/blob/master/styles/icons/level-crossing.svg

These icons were designed and committed by myself and I hereby allow the JOSM developers to distribute them under any license (i.e. CC-0).

[Klumbumbus]

In 9421/josm:

see #12232 - move old icons to nodist folder; see also [o31979]

[Klumbumbus]

In 9424/josm:

see #12232 - move icon, which is still in use in internal preset back from nodist folder

[zermes]

Replying to Klumbumbus:

The new railway crossing icons are a bit obtrusive. This was better before. (However I'm not sure, if the usage on tram crossings is correct.)

I didn't forgot this. I will try other icons but won't be easy (if it was I would have already done it). In fact these obtrusive icons weren't easy too, believe me, before these I tried others that I don't have courage to show here, they were very very terrible.

Replying to Nakaner:

I prefer the old icons over the new ones. If want to get away from the German saltire(...)

I don't have nothing against "German saltire" per se, it's just too much abstract. If a 10 year old kid can figure out what a icons means, I think it's one proof the icon works, and I think that it's not the case in the previous icons.

[Klumbumbus]

Replying to zermes:

If a 10 year old kid can figure out what a icons means, I think it's one proof the icon works, and I think that it's not the case in the previous icons.

To me it was not so clear what the black and brown parts in your crossing icons mean. The context with the rail icon helped me to understand. However to understand what such an icon means is less important in this case because you will understand very fast any icon. And then it is more important that the icon is not obtrusive.

I checked the levelcrossing wikipedia pages and wikimedia commons and it seems, that a red cross (in different variations) is used in most countries. So I replaced the icons with two new svg icons, which a very similar to the old ones. See [o32032].