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Opened 10 years ago

Closed 7 years ago

Last modified 6 years ago

#11133 closed enhancement (worksforme)

Use "Backspace" key for deleting object in Mac OS X

Reported by: Zverikk Owned by: team
Priority: normal Milestone:
Component: Core shortcuts Version: tested
Keywords: macosx delete backspace Cc: lists@…

Description (last modified by Zverikk)

Most keyboards for Macs have "Backspace" keys, but no "Delete". Pressing "Fn+Backspace" is not obvious and easy, and there is no action for "Backspace" key when an object is selected. Could we please move delete action to "Backspace" key on Mac OS X? Maybe on other platforms too, as an alias.

Update: tested it again, "Backspace" works when in Draw mode for some reason, but not in Select mode.

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comment:1 by Zverikk, 10 years ago

Description: modified (diff)

comment:2 by Don-vip, 10 years ago

Keywords: macosx added; mac os removed

comment:3 by Don-vip, 10 years ago

Component: CoreCore shortcuts
Keywords: delete backspace added
Type: defectenhancement

comment:4 by Aun Johnsen <lists@…>, 10 years ago

Cc: lists@… added

comment:5 by Lesath, 10 years ago

Can you please attach the status report for this bug (Help->Show status report)? It would be incredible helpful!

comment:6 by Zverikk, 10 years ago

Not sure why you need it.

Revision: 8109
Repository Root: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn
Relative URL: ^/trunk
Last Changed Author: Don-vip
Last Changed Date: 2015-03-02 00:13:51 +0100 (Mon, 02 Mar 2015)
Build-Date: 2015-03-02 02:30:58
URL: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/svn/trunk
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comment:7 by Lesath, 10 years ago

I can't reproduce the behavior - Backspace and Fn+Backspce works both for me - the only difference is I'm using currently Java 7. Can you test it with Java 7 too? It seems to be that a bug in the JDK is the cause for the not working Key combinations.

comment:8 by Aun Johnsen <lists@…>, 10 years ago

Same problem, Mac OS X 10.10.2 - MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013) -

#$ java -version
java version "1.8.0_40-ea"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_40-ea-b07)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.40-b11, mixed mode)
#$ 
Hardware Overview:

  Model Name:	MacBook Pro
  Model Identifier:	MacBookPro10,1
  Processor Name:	Intel Core i7
  Processor Speed:	2.4 GHz
  Number of Processors:	1
  Total Number of Cores:	4
  L2 Cache (per Core):	256 KB
  L3 Cache:	6 MB
  Memory:	8 GB
  Boot ROM Version:	MBP101.00EE.B06
  SMC Version (system):	2.3f36

Tried just now, and I cannot delete with backspace, though I have routine deleting with Fn+backspace

in reply to:  7 comment:9 by Zverikk, 10 years ago

Replying to Lesath:

I can't reproduce the behavior - Backspace and Fn+Backspce works both for me - the only difference is I'm using currently Java 7. Can you test it with Java 7 too? It seems to be that a bug in the JDK is the cause for the not working Key combinations.

Not sure how and why test it with Java 7: the eighth version has been the default for a year now, and most Mac users have Java 6 and Java 8. Can anybody just add a shortcut alias?

comment:10 by Lesath, 10 years ago

Ok - understood now. But the problem is that Backspace in DrawMode does in fact an "Undo" - this is why this works in Draw mode. The delete is system wide as delete - though it is not that easy to use with a MacBook keyboard.

Currently there are not have much platform specific Shortcuts. I will have a look into it.

I'm thinking swapping the Backspace/Delete keys in MacOSX would work?

comment:11 by Zverikk, 10 years ago

I'd prefer Backspace working the same way in drawing mode, but it would be great to swap (or better, duplicate) the two in selection mode.

comment:12 by Stereo, 7 years ago

Resolution: worksforme
Status: newclosed

Identification: JOSM/1.5 (13265 en_GB) Mac OS X 10.13.2
OS Build number: Mac OS X 10.13.2 (17C205)
Java version: 1.8.0_161-b12, Oracle Corporation, Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM

I was able to re-map the delete/backspace keys in the keyboard shortcut preferences. Yay!

comment:13 by richlv, 6 years ago

Re-mapping took me longer in Mac itself than in a Linux VM. Longer than I'd like to admit, with the confusing symbols Mac uses.

To possibly help somebody else, created for-the-dummies instructions at https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/68481/how-to-make-the-mac-delete-button-work-in-josm .

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